Too'ees OLD is a fine beverage but not what it used to be...then again neither is reshes pils'ner. Why I remember a time before all this lifestyle "specialty" beer when the old pils'ner was king amongst beers, now sadly reduced to run of the mill beer that makes you want to buy the specialty stuff. See now that's marketing, make the standard stuff to "a standard" where you have to go looking for the "specialty" item and pay the extra...kind of like the PMG / ah sorry Telecom / ah sorry Telstra, where if public opinion doesnt want it sold off, you run it into the ground, cut staff to a 1/4 of what it should be, give the worst possible service, the clients leave it in droves, then you have the excuse to sell it. That's good marketing is it not? G. and yes I still hope yas all chokes on ya biscuits oops I mean...biscotti....Ciao, oops sorry I mean...see ya.