Thanks guys. I went to the watchmaker but unfortunately the needle is still holding fast.... The watchmaker was very cagey, and after a quick show & tell, handed the tool over and said 'here you do it - I don't want to break it'.... :🙂 I had a couple of goes at it, but its stuck on pretty good. It's a brass 'cap' that is a friction fit onto the shaft. So, I could make another trip into town and visit the vintage watchmaker guys that specialise in restoration, to try and get it off again. Or, find a way to support the pointer and prep it in place, for painting. Re support, I'm thinking of something soft like a bit of material, with maybe cardboard on top (all slid under the needle). What do you think? Re the hard drawn copper - 1/4" doesn't bend into a curve neatly with tool, as the hard drawn 3/8 tubing did. Might have to try it full of sand, or just use the annealed stuff.